At least they probably won’t play it at the Asian Games in Hangzhou

The SCMP reports that the Justice Dept has come up with more reasons why courts should grant an injunction to bar anyone from ‘broadcasting, performing, ­printing, publishing, selling, ­offering for sale, distributing, disseminating, displaying or reproducing in any way’ the song Glory to Hong Kong

[High Court Judge Anthony] Chan said as he rejected the earlier interim injunction bid that it did not involve “real utility” as acts the government wanted to ban were already punishable under Hong Kong’s criminal law.

But the justice department said in its latest submission that the injunction could amplify the deterrent effect, considering barriers to prosecution as many people used fake names when disseminating the song.

…“It is thus plainly wrong to take into account that perfectly innocent people would distance themselves from what may be lawful acts involving the song if the injunction is granted,” the amended notice of appeal said.

“The criminal law has already carried a deterrent effect. Those sailing close to the wind in case of doubt should not do it.”

Still sounds like they want (as the judge said) a ‘chilling effect’. The Justice Dept’s tenacity suggests that it needs to show how hard it is trying. Will the courts give in this time? If so, will YouTube and others obey the injunction? Meanwhile, by putting such effort into suppressing this short piece of music, the Hong Kong authorities are doing more than anyone to promote it. 

Some links from the weekend…

The FT on China’s new approach to teaching English…

Xi Jinping Thought has been incorporated into numerous university disciplines ranging from business administration to physics to biology. In its latest College English Teaching Guidance published in 2020, the Ministry of Education said textbooks should “purposefully” incorporate “core socialist values”, a set of slogans spearheaded by Xi, to ensure students have a “correct worldview”.

The resulting overhaul culminated in the publication last year of the New Era series textbooks. Instead of reading about western culture, students are required to translate into English paragraphs that describe their “super confidence” in the nation’s literary achievements or reflect on how the opening ceremony of the Beijing Winter Olympics “impressed the world”. The new textbook features a Xi speech against “US aggression” and an analysis arguing that many US-educated Chinese students struggled to find jobs back home because of their “western attitudes”.

“It is not going to make more people want to study English if they have to use it to study Xi Jinping Thought,” said Neil Thomas, a fellow at the Asia Society Policy Institute’s Center for China Analysis.

And from USA Today – ethnic Chinese have been the main donors to the white-supremacist Proud Boys …

Some Chinese Americans have bought in to the rhetoric spread by the Proud Boys, conspiracy theorists such as Alex Jones and conservative commentators that America is under attack from communism. They believe the Proud Boys are on the vanguard of protecting the country from a communist army controlled by antifa and the Black Lives Matter movement…

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18 Responses to At least they probably won’t play it at the Asian Games in Hangzhou

  1. Stu says:

    If indeed they are Chinese donors, wouldn’t another explaination be they are acting in the interest of CCP in encouraging disorder and destabalise USA.

  2. Chinese Netizen says:

    Considering most random attacks in the U.S. against Asians in retaliation for Covid the last three years were allegedly committed by blacks, it’s no wonder Chinese bought into the right wing conspiracy money making agenda for that alone rather than so-called communism.

  3. Red Dragon says:

    Chinese Netizen

    Oh yes, indeed! “Allegedly”.

    Key word, that. Allows a chap to spout any old rubbish with relative impunity.

    Incidentally, some interesting names mentioned in that unsurprisingly weak and shallow USA Today piece.

    Jun Li, Hao Xu and Ying Pei almost certainly hail from you know where, while Rebecca Kwan (sic) would appear to be a Hongkonger, particularly in light of her touching concern for the sanctity of small businesses and department stores.

    Depending on where they come from in China, why they left, and what they’re up to in the States, I’d guess that there are a whole host of reasons (including anti-communism, anti-Americanism, anti-anti-fascism and downright racism) why an apparently tiny number of ethnic Chinese in America “alledgedly” saw fit to write a cheque to the so-called Proud Boys.

    As Ernie Kovacs (and on occasion, Ernie Bevin) is alleged to have observed:

    “I am the victim of vicious and unfounded allegations, and I will welcome the day when I come face to face with the alligators.”

    Have a nice day!

  4. Red Dragon says:

    Chinese Netizen

    Oh yes, indeed! “Allegedly”.

    Key word, that. Allows a chap to spout any old rubbish with relative impunity.

    Incidentally, some interesting names mentioned in that unsurprisingly weak and shallow USA Today piece.

    Jun Li, Hao Xu and Ying Pei almost certainly hail from you know where, while Rebecca Kwan (sic) would appear to be a Hongkonger, particularly in light of her touching concern for the sanctity of small businesses and department stores.

    Depending on where they come from in China, why they left, and what they’re up to in the States, I’d guess that there are a whole host of reasons (including anti-communism, anti-Americanism, anti-anti-fascism and downright racism) why an apparently tiny number of ethnic Chinese in America “alledgedly” saw fit to write a cheque to the so-called Proud Boys.

    As Ernie Kovacs (and on occasion, Ernie Bevin) is alleged to have observed:

    “I am the victim of vicious and unfounded allegations, and I will welcome the day when I come face to face with the alligators.”

  5. Sam Clemens says:

    Antifa & BLM are the spawn of liberal elites and black grifters. The Proud Boys and most decent Americans, including those of Chinese descent, are against both of those groups.

    It’s not a mystery.

  6. HK-Cynic says:

    The USA Today piece sounds as about as balanced in its reporting as “Studying English with Xi Jinping thought” is.

  7. Cautious cynic says:

    Sam Clemens

    So in being against “antifa” (or anti fascism) you are in favour of fascism?

  8. steve says:

    @ Chinese Netizen

    Nope.

    “…[M]ore than three-quarters of offenders of anti-Asian hate crimes and incidents, previous to and during the pandemic, have been white.” https://socialinnovation.ucr.edu/news/2021/06/17/most-anti-asian-attacks-committed-whites-new-study

    @ Sam Clemens

    Waving your fascist, white nationalist nether parts in our faces is exactly as attractive as it sounds.

  9. Sam Clemens says:

    @Cautious cynic

    Antifa is about as fascistic as one can get. But you knew that.

  10. Sam Clemens says:

    @steve

    The author of the report you cite, Janelle Wong, is the worst kind of race hustler, sowing division where there is none.

    For example, one study she cites in the notoriously subjective field of “hate crimes” reports that anti-Asian hate crimes, (defined as “verbal harassment” and “shunning”, whatever that is), jumped 700% in Sacramento during the pandemic.

    That’s pretty alarming until you realise the skyrocketing figure is based on 8 reported anti-Asian incidents, up from a single reported incident the year before.

    All that shunning going on and not a policeman in sight.

  11. Chinese Netizen says:

    Red Dragon…SO full of self righteousness that you had to post twice?

    You’re right, naturally: I should have left the “allegedly” out and just gone with the obvious? That’s what happens when you play the PC game.

    @steve: Thanks for the clarification. Naturally I was going by incidents covered the most prominently by the alleged “mainstream media”. Though UC Riverside, in the pollution bowl of the “Inland Empire”, is a suspect source 😉

  12. Low Profile says:

    I don’t think the great author whose name Sam Clemens has appropriated would equate an organisation of racist gun-waving insurrectionist thugs with “most decent Americans”. For a more balanced view of Antifa, see https://warontherocks.com/2020/06/what-antifa-is-what-it-isnt-and-why-it-matters/.

  13. Red Dragon says:

    Chinese Netizen.

    Don’t be so touchy.

    My dual post was not born of self-righteousness for the very simple reason that I am the very model of humility.

    Perhaps Hemlock can tell us why it happened because I haven’t the foggiest.

    Hope it doesn’t happen again, though. Single posts are often more than enough from some of the people in here.

  14. Sam Clemens says:

    @Low Profile

    The judge in Oregon had a rather better informed view of Antifa three days ago when he ruled “in favor of Ngo’s claims he was brutally assaulted by members of Rose City Antifa during a June 2019 protest in downtown Portland.”

    As for Mark Twain, clearly you know very little about him. If you did, you would know his political views would be much closer to the Proud Boys than today’s Democratic Party.

    I’m off to the opera.

  15. steve says:

    @ Sam Clemens

    Anyone who uses the term “race hustler” is a white supremacist.

    Anyone who stands with the Proud Boys is a white supremacist.

    Yeah, the first Sam was racist. That seems like a really perverse rationale for admiring him. In any case, he did have other qualities which are the basis for his legacy. You on the other hand are an internet troll pandering hate, one of a festering horde of cockroaches whose memory will be dust. Have fun with your miserable, wasted life.

  16. Rocinante says:

    @ Steve
    Thomas Sowell, who is black and not a white supremist, used the term ‘race hustler’

    “Race hustling is a remarkably lucrative occupation and the hustlers range from the level of the ordinary streetwalkers called `community activists’ to the Hollywood madam level of Ivy League professors in black studies.”

    Although he was writing long before black lives matter, it applies to this:

    https://nypost.com/2023/05/27/only-33-of-blms-90m-in-donations-helped-charity-foundations/

    The reason money that should go to poor black communities can be stolen is because race hustlers, their idiot allies in ‘antifa’ and elsewhere can shout (or write) ‘fascist’ or ‘racist’ or even ‘white supremist’ to end any discussion.

  17. steve says:

    @ Rocinante (alias Sam Clemens)

    Thomas Sowell? Really? The reactionary right’s go-to Black conservative who never met a white supremacist he wouldn’t indulge? This really is the best you can do, and it’s pathetic.

    Citing the Murdoch New York Post? Still a not bad sports page, but otherwise as credible as the Weekly World News.

    And I just love the way you continue to talk about Antifa as though it’s some kind of organized movement, with leaders and a charter and all. That’s just dear, and oh so symptomatic.

  18. techylist says:

    I’m not sure if they will play it at the Asian Games in Hangzhou, but I’m looking forward to hearing it!

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